May 8: Pre-1950 borders

Can we now call for an independent Tibetan state based on the pre-1950 borders with its capital in Lhasa, and security for China?

May 8, 2013 21:19

Letters 370. (photo credit: REUTERS/Handout )

Pre-1950 borders

Sir, – The sub-headline of “Beijing welcomes Abbas with four-point peace plan” (May 7) reads: “Proposal calls for Palestinian state based on pre-’67 lines with capital in east Jerusalem, security for Israel.”

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Can we now call for an independent Tibetan state based on the pre-1950 borders with its capital in Lhasa, and security for China? After all, in 1950 China invaded and conquered a peaceful state, and coercively moved in millions of its own people (who were not consulted). It continues to repress the native population and seeks to stamp out its peaceful, non-violent religion – and has ever since refused to discuss the matter.


Haredi education

Sir, – With regard to “Rabbi Shteinman: There will be no secular studies in haredi education system” (May 7), it is unimaginable that in a modern, technologically advanced and democratic country like Israel one of the fastest-growing sectors of society refuses to incorporate a level of education that will eventually allow its graduates to take their rightful place in a rapidly changing, hi-tech workforce.

There is no other explanation for this – it is criminal behavior. It is incumbent on the state to intercede and demand that these critical academic changes be made, by force if necessary. Israel cannot afford to have perhaps 20 percent of its adult male population in a situation of perpetual unemployment – we would lose an enormous tax base and, furthermore, face ejection from the OECD.

It is not the fault of these students.

They are, for the most part, very bright and want to learn secular subjects. Rather, it is their rabbis who live in a constant state of fear and trepidation of these students being integrated into mainstream Israeli society.


Sir, – If the Israeli government reduces the budgets of haredi schools that don’t teach basic secular studies such as maths and English, surely these schools can simply appeal to haredi donors abroad who, having benefited from a secular education in the countries in which they live, can afford to make up the shortfall.


Careful, Tamar

Sir, – MK Tamar Zandberg needs to think her actions through a little more carefully (“Meretz lawmaker Zandberg boycotts Knesset cafeterias,” May 7).

If all members of Knesset were to act likewise as a protest against the lack of direct employment for cafeteria workers, there would be no customers and the workers would have to be sacked.

DAVID S. ADDLEMAN Mevaseret Zion

Do not succumb

Sir, – Isi Leibler’s “Bayit Yehudi: Choosing religious moderation or extremism” (Candidly Speaking, May 7) was a most erudite and brilliant piece of journalism. I hope Naftali Bennett reads it and grasps the full implications of all its great rewards or, heaven forbid, dire consequences for acts of stupidity and a lack of courage.

I fully agree with Leibler that Bennett is one of the most successful of the new generation of Israeli politicians, having won many votes from people who are not religiously observant.

However, I am most concerned that his party has four MKs with radical ideologies who are under the control of the extremist Tekuma rabbinical council.

These extremists will do their utmost to undermine many of the liberal stands Bayit Yehudi promised its voters. Bennett dare not succumb.

The future holds great promise for a party blessed with such a charismatic leader. Don’t throw it away.


An Islamic value

Sir, – Michael Freund (“The lies we tell ourselves about moderate Islam, May 7) is quite right. It is becoming absurdly difficult for the Obama administration to keep up its self-deception and obsessive denial of something that is clear to anyone capable of connecting the dots.

The result of a recent Pew Research Center survey, cited by Freund, should come as no surprise.

An extremely large percentage of Muslims worldwide supports the actions of suicide bombers in “defense of Islam.”

Where is moderate Islam? A Jew who is fired with love for his land and people, and who does the kind of actions associated with so-called price tag attacks, can properly be called an extremist. He has taken important Jewish values to an extreme, to the point where it is no longer a Jewish value and most fellow Jews would disapprove.

In Islam, however, hatred of the infidel, idealization of the “martyr” and violent Jihad are theologically well grounded and publicly preached so that a Muslim suicide bomber has not taken anything to an extreme.

He has simply implemented an Islamic value (albeit politically incorrect). This explains the findings of the survey.


Those boos again

Sir, – Alan Dershowitz (“Jews who boo efforts to make peace,” Comment & Opinion, May 6) has it all wrong. The participants at the Post conference didn’t boo those seeking peace – they booed the idea of dividing our land in order to achieve peace.

If, as Dershowitz claims, we have no long-standing rights to Judea and Samaria, he as much as denies our rights to the entire country, including the area we have inhabited since 1948.

If we display a willingness to compromise by dividing our property, the Arabs would learn two things. One is Israeli weakness of purpose, the other is that our oft-repeated claim of the holiness of God-given land is untrue. After all, we would be willing to give it up.

Let us remember that for the Muslims, the world is divided into two groups: the area under Islam’s domination and the area still to be conquered. To them, any lands that used to be Muslim, such as Spain, are rightfully theirs.

So let us remember that the Land of Israel is not just a piece of real estate we can split up at will in order to obtain some temporary benefit. There is no reason we should be forthcoming.

They are not.


Sir, – Is Alan Dershowitz insinuating that all bible believers are radicals who support assassination? If so, that is both offensive and “chutzpah,” to use the title of his book.

It’s very easy for the good professor to suggest what those of us who live here should or shouldn’t give up. Until he’s willing to immigrate and live with a new front for rocket launches from land we gave up for the sake of peace, I suggest that he stick to teaching, writing and lecturing on topics where his well-intended suggestions are appreciated.


Sir, – Yes, Prof. Dershowitz, everyone deserves the right of free speech. But without booing you, sir, I can only state that you are almost hopelessly naïve thinking that the Palestinians would be willing to make peace with an abhorrent Jewish state if only we were willing to compromise a bit.

The constant incitement in their media, mosques and schools should be enough to convince anyone what they really think of us. Their insistence on a state that is judenrein is itself a blow to peaceful coexistence.

Their demonization of Israelis (and Jews) is meant to encourage wholesale slaughter.

And they refuse to recognize Israel as the one Jewish state in the entire world.

Every compromise, every withdrawal, every gesture Israel has made has failed to move them from their main goal of destroying us.

Prof. Dershowitz, you have joined the ranks of those with what I term the “fairy tale mentality”: Give it all back and we’ll live happily ever after.

RON BELZER Petah Tikva

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