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In the latest episode of The Deep Dive, Jacob Laznik dove into the delicate subject of Israel's military and societal dynamics. Joined by Tal Hochman, Executive Director of the Israel Women's Network, and Rabbi Natan Slifkin, a prominent figure in rationalist Judaism, the episode explored the intersection of gender, religion, and national service in Israel.
Societal tensions
The conversation focused on a recent incident in which a mob of Haredi men attacked female soldiers in Bnei Brak, a story that had sparked public outrage and political debate. Rabbi Slifkin, with his deep understanding of ultra-Orthodox society, discussed how such incidents reflect a broader societal tension between segments of Israeli society and the state. He stressed that, while these attacks are not necessarily the norm, they highlight an ongoing struggle for integration and recognition between Israel's religious and secular populations. According to Rabbi Slifkin, these conflicts are likely to escalate unless government policies are adjusted to address the divide, especially regarding the increasing pressure on ultra-Orthodox communities to serve in the military.
Ensuring women's safety
On the other hand, Tal Hochman shared her perspective on the significant challenges faced by women in Israel, particularly since October 7. Drawing from her own experiences, she underscored the vital roles women play in national defense, despite facing resistance from certain factions of society. Hochman called for more awareness and action from both the government and the public to ensure women’s safety and participation in Israel’s public life, especially in light of such violent events.
In this compelling discussion, both guests urged listeners to think on the role of religion in shaping societal norms, as they advocated for a more inclusive approach in Israel's military and civil structures.