At a conference you organized in Brazil, Haaretz journalist Gideon Levy charged the Israeli media with being complicit in “extending occupation.”I didn’t bring Gideon Levy. He wasn’t brought there through the Middle East Press Club. I can’t answer for him. I look at different barometers. Let’s look at American-style democracy in journalism. It’s different for an Israeli or a Palestinian and again they don’t have to be equal. On the other hand you have the issue of government-owned entities, including in Israel, whether it’s Army Radio or IBA, and then on the Palestinian side you have many newspapers that have governmental ownership. The big question of course is: how much can you say without scrutiny and how much liberty [do] you have?Some of that has changed. I think there are small changes. When you see a newspaper like Al-Quds, they have been taking Media Line content for four years and nothing has been stopped. That to me is freedom.... We always look for the bad and not for the good. When the good exists it needs to be stated. And that’s probably the biggest problem you see with advocacy organizations where they look at satellite TV and look at newspapers, particularly in the Arab world, and find the bad. But where’s the good? There is good and there is change, but if you don’t reinforce that it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.Going back to the issue of what someone like Gideon Levy says, and again I would rather you ask him, but the issue is that the more journalists that you give access to, to let Palestinian journalists come into Israel and tell a story and not be afraid of them; the more journalists from Israel you allow to see what’s happening economically, socially, culturally; [the more] you have the ability to have your own eyes tell the story. Otherwise, you’re shaping it from a telephone call and you cannot tell that story. Seeing is believing.Can you tell us about your experiences traveling in the Arab world?I’ve met fascinating people, really fascinating people. From the grandson of an Iraqi prime minister to a Palestinian-American running for governor of Texas. I think that there are some very interesting people who are out there trying to make a difference in terms of the whole picture. These kinds of people that I’ve met are also interested in the economic boom in the region, and frankly when people talk about peace in the future, frankly I don’t know whether I believe in the term “peace initiatives” – I think that’s overused. I think that the economy is what’s going to shape the future, the journalists that tell the economic stories, that tell the cultural stories, that tell the social stories are going to shape the future. I believe that educating our children to get the whole picture on all sides, to really not shape their minds by holding back, by being afraid of the truth of history, is what’s going to yield a better place in this region.What do you think of the whole issue of fundamentalism in the Arab world? How do you see the battle between fundamentalists and modernists?I think it’s about the fact that there are good people in every country in the Middle East – witness what is going on in Iran – and those numbers grow based on being able to have movement, whether having freedom to express themselves openly or discreetly; whether it’s the ability to leave a country and go outside and talk about what’s happening. I think by empowering the moderates you’re going to shift the balance of the fundamentalism that everyone is concerned about. More emphasis needs to be placed on giving the power to these amazing people – women and men who are changing things in their countries in the Middle East, especially in countries like Yemen, Iran, Somalia and Iraq.There are elections due to take place in Iraq and there is a charter that 25 percent of that election has to include women, and I know of a legislative group going over there to empower women to partake in the elections.Is there room for engagement with those defined as fundamentalists?Well, you can’t say I’m going to speak to this terrorist group but not to that terrorist group, and this is redefined all the time even within the American government. Hizbullah is okay for Lebanon but Hamas is forbidden to the Palestinians. Egypt has its plate full with the Muslim Brotherhood. Everybody has their own fear factor. It’s not for me to state on a personal level [what] I think of engaging a fundamentalist, and for that matter how you define that is where I want to go.I think that it’s something that needs to be judged on a case-by-case basis. I don’t think you can just say in one fell swoop, “I’m not going to talk to fundamentalists.” That’s not a position that makes sense. I think that you have to analyze each and every position at that political moment.
As a commentator on Middle East affairs, how would you grade President Obama’s first year in office vis-a-vis the region?When it comes to these issues I am very cautious to respond. I’m a journalist and I view myself as giving facts. When I write an opinion piece I will give a full spectrum of thought and how I came to that. In the case of President Obama, I think that there are things he’s done well and things that he hasn’t, but I’m not going to sit here as an American and grade the president. It’s my job to give the information in terms of what is Obama doing, what different people say about what he is doing and not let people judge my particular opinion in this case because I am not a commentator, I am a journalist.The Media Line has been operating a Jerusalem office for 10 years. Have your opinions shifted in the time you have been here?Yes. And that goes back to the question on Obama, where I can answer:The most important lesson I have learned is don’t prejudge. I have metmany Palestinians and many Israelis and many people from around theMiddle East, and people are human. They are different, they havedifferent political thought. It’s not that every Israeli wants to killa Palestinian and every Palestinian wants to kill an Israeli; there’s anice happy medium somewhere. I learned that I need to be on the street.Mymessage, if it would be anything to President Obama, or anyone in theregion, would be: Get on the street – meet people, talk to them – gosee the first planned Palestinian city; go see the hi-tech industry andthe water innovation that’s going on in Israel. Don’t read about it,get down and get dirty. And the same goes for the citizen alike, youcan’t live your life through a newspaper and through sound bites,you’ve got to go and see for yourself.